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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 12:53    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

uhmm am confused :mrgreen:
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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 14:12    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 14:19    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

they wont appear with this new voting system; not every1 will vote anymore, only registered ppl and only those who know about it; it will be again a /mw yes /mw no command system, so only ppl who play regularly will know about it so im pretty sure maps like those wont appear

@SyS: what i meant with that is: shall the system reset all the votes once a month OR instead of resetting ppl are able to do /mw yes, /mw no on the same map more than once and so being able to change they're vote for that map; one guy can obviously have only one vote for one map..
i say the 2nd one, its much easier like that and also the first idea (resetting all the votes) wont be good for the first days of the month as not many ppl would get to vote for they're favourite maps

ill also make it to show your MW Vote the for current map in the mapInfo window, but only if you're logged in
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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 14:32    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

Yeah 2nd option is good,. it should guarantee we have a decent selection of MW maps for the first days of each month :)
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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 15:53    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

yeee 2nd choice
thanks for clearing things i forgoted how d old sys worked.
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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 17:46    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

ok, the new voting system is on; the MW will still play the old maps tho, ill change it tomorow maybe, or during the next week after we gather some votes
your vote for the current map should appear in the mapInfo window on map starts, if it doesnt then it means you didnt vote for the map; it will be the last row and the vote will be shown in blue, either 'yes' or 'no'

now notice that the mapInfo window when you finish the race wont have that vote updated if you changed/voted during the map

now you know the drill: /mw yes or /mw no
the maps will be chosen the same way as they are now, 20 maps from the most 40 voted, and 30 maps for saturday/sunday MWs
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Posted: 30 Nov 2010, 18:31    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

Good job mate.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2010, 09:19    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

ok, i removed the 'you cannot vote while a MW event is started' protection, you can now vote for the map anytime
i also made it to show any vote changes during the race.. so when you finish a race it shows your actual vote; ex: if you didnt vote for the map before, it wont show anything when the map starts but if you vote yes or no during the map it will show when you finish it
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Posted: 02 Dec 2010, 13:29    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

Cool Gracias m8 :D
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Posted: 20 Feb 2011, 14:46    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

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Posted: 20 Feb 2011, 15:22    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

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Posted: 20 Feb 2011, 15:52    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

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Posted: 20 Feb 2011, 17:36    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

guys i dont understand one thing is this for all servers including DM and DD or its only for Race and F1 server?
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Posted: 20 Feb 2011, 19:09    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

if its only for race server and F1 could u please make that system on dm and dd servers ?


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Posted: 09 Mar 2011, 22:33    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

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Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 11:45    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

**WARNING, BIG CHANGE SUGGESTED**

A few regular players and I were talking about MW and using it better. We came onto what we thought was a much simpler and exciting way to do the points system.

Its complicated at the moment with the monthly stats and daily events to win a championship, add career points too and it just all seems a little bit messy.

And the Fact that it is never really a close battle to end a month, usually with the person who played the most races, with the most points.

Think of Any real racing championship, if you win every race then there is a Maximum amount of points possible to gain. There might be a final race where any 4 Drivers can win a championship!

We can also do it like that too!!


What we were thinking about was to make each day in a month like 1 raceday in a championship, use F1 for example.... Simple.

So with 30 racedays in a month, winning each raceday you will have maximum points, like Schumacher in a Ferrari.

Doing that will be pretty unlikely though, which is why it will produce closer Battles for the championship win!! Possibly with F1-style 3 or 4 or 5-way battles for a championship month, and then Vettel snatched it wtf?!! lolol yeah anythin could happen!...


So, each day you gain points like you do normally, but at the end of the raceday there is a winner, and MW-style points awarded, like a 1day MW event with no Round limit. Then each day the total points you got are reset, and your Championship points add to the total for the month.

Like MW you could start the Raceday at a particular time, when the server is busiest so most people would be at the finish, and then want to race as much for the next raceday, probably keeping it the same at 7pm.

Then its just simple to work out what we would award as points for a whole Raceday.

1000pts 1st
950pts 2nd
900pts 3rd
850pts 4th
...100pts 20th

Like that it would be a maximum of 30,000pts for being like Schumey and winning all the time, in a 30 day month.

So, the daily points each Raceday are counted, and monthly points awarded, like MW. You still get the same montly winner and the same gold/silver/bronze Podium-style finish, but the monthly points are counted from the daily events, rather than just total points. The total career points would be reset each raceday end, and are the points that win a Raceday.

You could list Raceday finishes in F1 stats, instead of showing each individual race finish, so in F1 stats 1st 2nd 3rd would show each raceday finishing position instead of each race finish.

Just think about it a second before typing "no change, its fine how it is" think about Vettel winning the F1 season, that 4-way battle, the excitement, the Glory!!

Ok ok I do get carried away, but if its not too difficult and is possible, why not? It would make much closer battles every month guaranteed! :D
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Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 13:43    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

i would like to see this happen give it a shot for a month and see how it works out :)


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Posted: 26 Apr 2011, 16:48    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

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Posted: 07 Jun 2012, 19:18    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

ok, we don't like it anymore, lets use it less/at all.. so either we got back to only week-ends or no mw at all since there is no mw nowadays on the race server, which one?
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Posted: 07 Jun 2012, 20:00    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!




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Posted: 08 Jun 2012, 06:36    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

every1 who ever gmed/kicked/banned ppl during mw
have you played mw lately? its DD server moved on race maps; admins or non-admins, noobs or not, its all a big DD
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Posted: 08 Jun 2012, 07:08    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

GM for everyone during the mw is the only solution.


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Posted: 08 Jun 2012, 07:16    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

To be honest we need a different thing now... a Challenge Server passworded, where we can invite only peeps from the Race Server.

There you can use to have a dayly mw and, for the rest of the day, it will become a good place to try toptimes with /voteredo and /votemap already free for all.

This will solve for real the issue imho.

We have too much good racers to stay between noobs anymore.

Our server is damn loved by random players even for custom models, for maps, for Secret Race, for how they can learn from other good players.

My suggest:
-Racing Server, free for all, add a "Rush Hour" event, a sort of little MW like in DD and DM: 10maps
-Pro Server, invite only, MW each day with 20 or 30 maps at the usual time; for the rest of the day free for toptimes and pratice, only for who have the password;

It could be a good reason to organize more Clanwar, more Tournament inter-clan (example: with Flow, MSD and AcidbRain we have in mind to do a summer event).

Maybye is better discuss that on private forum, but i launch the idea here.



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Posted: 08 Jun 2012, 08:37    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

@Botn: gm on is not a solution for a race server
@Docki: i don't think a 2nd server would work, too much mess involved

maybe we should just remove the points reward for the mw's during weekdays and leave it just for week-ends..
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Posted: 08 Jun 2012, 08:48    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!




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Posted: 08 Jun 2012, 09:01    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!




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Posted: 08 Jun 2012, 10:01    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

the problem is noobs are noobs who don't really care/know what mw is, regular players are too afraid to drive normally bcoz they might end up banned/kicked and admins don't give a shit about other players (be it noobs or regulars) and would ban any1 for any small thing

u remember the old days? without gm option? if that was the case today then 90% of the server would end up banned, the difference is back in the old days we were just playing for fun, there wasn't this stats fever that roams around now.. we all gathered around during mw to play together and have fun; players weren't getting banned for not knowing a map and take a corner too late meaning they'd ram someone, players were only banned for cheating...
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Posted: 08 Jun 2012, 10:12    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

Into a server where you let enter only who can play witouth issues what's wrong?

Passworded + login needed with authorizations given by us.

I understand perfectly your point, i don't understand why isn't good the idea of a separate server for pure competition and keep the actual one only for relaxing and application to the competitive one.

Have you the fear to lose the spirit of the game with that?



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Posted: 08 Jun 2012, 11:15    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

We tried a seperate server once. It failed miserably.
The regular server became less popular and the "pro" server only had 2-3 people in it. We have a race server now that has a good amount of people in it. Let's try to keep it that way instead of splitting the player base.

Getting rid of MW doesn't seem like a good idea tbh. The server is busiest during MW hours. It definitely played a role in increasing server popularity. That doesn't mean we can't make some adjustements to the concept though.

Can you clarify what the problem is with MW? Too many rammers/noobs or too many admins with anger management issues?



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Posted: 08 Jun 2012, 11:22    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

I think is the 2nd.

Ramming noobs are forever...



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Posted: 08 Jun 2012, 11:29    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

How about that dimension thingy from Green,where the players get splits in groups?
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Posted: 08 Jun 2012, 12:02    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

its all ok !! let it stay the way it is adi just had 2 bad Mw s on a row ehehe MW s was one of our brilliant creations and brings lots of racers to the server !! it would be a bit stupid to finish it.
About admins raging i cant see anything anormal !! the kicks increase a bit but nothing special and this would also finish if we could just force gm on until player disconnect server bcz what happens now its a war , we ask nice but they refuse it we force it on and they just click back off .
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Posted: 08 Jun 2012, 12:44    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

I have another solution. For MW let a script decide who has GM and who doesn't. Obviously let all SKC and selected induviduals have choice. But the rest decide on points. If noob has st least 50% of the points that the highest scoring player has at that point in the month then they also get choice. Otherwise forced GM. Could be also done on race starts etc.
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Posted: 08 Jun 2012, 14:38    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

You could have something there with this Mr Greens dimensions thing of splitting players into groups, based on some kind of points system like Ivan said. Could be the way forward.

As we know noobs doing what noobs do is a perminant factor, something we all understand and accept, it's not their fault and we've all been there. Yet i stand defeated, it is the ONE reason why i don't participate in MW anymore, i can't deal with knock after knock for 20/30 rounds, and that's on a good day.

It's become beyond "just a game" for me where MW is concerned, has been for a while. Most of us, the SKC Race department atleast has evolved, we want something more than just DD with checkpoints, we want to race, race, and MW is the pinacle of competetvie racing for SKC, i think.

Halve the player count by way of groupings and halve the level of crap burdening MW. Specific to MW only obviously.
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Posted: 08 Jun 2012, 15:46    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

well skey, lately during mw the server starts to get emptier, most of the players are on server at the start of mw.. the only problem is we kicking/banning every players for small stuff + the admins ramming other players on purpose just bcoz they want 1st place..
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Posted: 28 Aug 2012, 19:06    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

bump..

had an idea, since i saw some players asking when do mw votes reset or how to actually make a difference in the chosen maps, was thinking of making an auto-reset for the mw votes, every 2 weeks

also was thinking of making the mw votes serial-based too along with being registered; also adding a mw vote window near the map rating one and removing the /mw yes|no command

so, what do you think?
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Posted: 28 Aug 2012, 19:37    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

Sounds good. I never even vote for mw maps cuz i simply dont think of it. Adding a vote menu at the end of the map might help in getting more votes.


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Posted: 28 Aug 2012, 19:48    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

Why not?

But haven't you changed the mw map select system last time?

I have a better idea about that: like the GUI for map-rating, make also a GUI for MW vote.

That can very quick all.

P.s.
What's the command to mark maps who are not good for MW vote?

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Skey stole my answer! lol



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Posted: 26 Oct 2012, 18:10    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

Just for fun, not seriously:
-Adi can you add (somewhere in the graphic) a "Team points" counter during MW?

Just to show the difference in points done between:
-SKC
-Followers
-Others

Just for fun... can you?



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Posted: 27 Oct 2012, 06:41    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

Yeah, should be possible, i'll see how i can integrate it
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Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 14:15    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

hey, this just went live on the server.. the /mw yes/no command has been removed; from now on you get to vote for mw maps when you finish a map, the same way you rate the map

pressing 1-5 will rate the map, pressing 8/9 will vote for mw (yes/no)

now the "MW Vote" window will only appear if you're logged in and also if there are at least 5 players online
and i also switched the mw votes to be serial-based too

as in the case with rating the vote isn't counted until the map ends..
i also added a spam check between votes: you can only rate/vote or change your vote every 3 seconds; will probably make it 5 seconds if every1 is ok with it; this applies separately for rating/mw so you don't have to worry that you might not get to do both (rate and vote)


@Docki: i didn't add yet that feature you requested, i'll see about it soon
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Posted: 01 Dec 2012, 14:18    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

good stuff!


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Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 17:16    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

Nice wd Adi as always
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Posted: 02 Dec 2012, 21:07    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

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Posted: 12 Dec 2012, 17:27    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

Something seems broke. It's like all the worst maps have made their way into MW.
Are you sure the script is working correctly?



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Posted: 12 Dec 2012, 17:30    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

yeah there was a bug with counting the votes, its fixed now
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Posted: 12 Dec 2012, 17:31    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

Alright then, thx!


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Posted: 17 Dec 2012, 22:17    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

Adi, can you add a command to "mark" some specific maps and avoid to vote for MW?

This way we can mark all romps, boomage, cnr, etc etc and prevent the vote from noobs.



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Posted: 17 Dec 2012, 22:18    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

What I mean is a command like /mwvotable yes/no

I will mark personally each map this way...



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Posted: 18 Dec 2012, 11:19    Post subject: Re: We like Most wanted, lets use it more!!!

yeah i meant to speak with you about that but i forgot.. just pm me whatever command is easier for you to use and i'll add it
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