Grand Theft Auto 4

Hitman · Posted: 07 Dec 2008, 10:46 Post subject:

i like to be involved, even tho i have nothing constructive to say about anything on here.. it's just a reminder that i'm still here supporting you guys.

mucho's love

Matt88 · Posted: 07 Dec 2008, 11:43 Post subject:

Aaaaw, wub you too.

Anyway, I downloaded fraps to finally find something out once and for all. Not happy. Not happy at all. I'm lucky if I get above 20FPS. This is on a computer that slightly exceeds Rockstar's 'recommended' requirements.

I'm going to start calling them Cockstar from now on.

Hey Adi, this dual core optimiser thing. Do you know when it's running or anything, like a system tray icon? I installed it, but I don't have anything showing up, and when I run the amd_dc_opt.exe nothing happens. No sign of it in the processes list in ctrl-alt-del either.

AdiBoy · Posted: 07 Dec 2008, 12:00 Post subject:

nop, you dont know... its somewhat hidden.. i guess you should just see some improvements..
btw, its just for amd processors, dunno if it works on intel too

Matt88 · Posted: 07 Dec 2008, 12:11 Post subject:

Yeah, I'm not that stupid... I have an Athlon 64x X2 5200+

anTe · Posted: 07 Dec 2008, 13:09 Post subject:

Lol now I finally get it. I can't install it because my computer is to bad.

Yoda · Posted: 07 Dec 2008, 14:07 Post subject:

I still dunno what happened last night, I got 50 FPS for several hours, then when I tried the game later on, back to the old 21 FPS..

Whiskey · Posted: 07 Dec 2008, 15:16 Post subject:

I managed to get a decent fps. Had to lower the resolution and draw distance though.

Benchmark gives me this now. It hardly ever drops below 25 fps in game now.

Statistics
Average FPS: 38.92
Duration: 37.18 sec
CPU Usage: 66%
System memory usage: 73%
Video memory usage: 71%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1440 x 900 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Medium
Render Quality: Highest
View Distance: 3
Detail Distance: 10

Hardware
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Service Pack 3
Video Adapter: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series
Video Driver version: 6.14.10.6879
Audio Adapter: Realtek HD Audio output
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz

Sputs|uk · Posted: 08 Dec 2008, 01:03 Post subject:

Installed another 1G of ram today and saw some improvement - nomore black holes, missing textures ect, still lously fps tho, averaging 17 with everything set to minimum.

Benchmark would never load before i upped to 2G ram:

Statistics
Average FPS: 17.06
Duration: 37.39 sec
CPU Usage: 88%
System memory usage: 76%
Video memory usage: 96%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 800 x 600 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Low
Render Quality: Low
View Distance: 1
Detail Distance: 1

Hardware
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Service Pack 3
Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
Video Driver version: 180.60
Audio Adapter: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [CCC0]
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz

Can't believe this thing is running on my old P4.

AdiBoy · Posted: 08 Dec 2008, 08:42 Post subject:

ey, this is mostly for ati card users, but ppl who have nvidia cards should try this too:

http://www.tweakforce.com/

i installed the XG catalyst 8.12 and got 2-3 more fps

now i get smooth gameplay with these settings:
ress 1280x1024 (60 hz)
texture medium
render high
viewdistance 100
detail 100
shadows 0
traffix 1

before i used these drivers the game would start to stutter after about 1 hour of playing but now it didnt happen anymore..

so you should try these drivers too, hope it helps

Ruuub · Posted: 08 Dec 2008, 21:34 Post subject:

I DONT KNOW EITHER BUT THIS IS GAME IS JUST BUGGEDDDDDDDDDDDDD. lol

Yoda · Posted: 08 Dec 2008, 21:53 Post subject:

Relaxxxxx!

Acid_Rain · Posted: 08 Dec 2008, 22:18 Post subject:

Sput whats your PC specs and what frps you running the game on?

Synergi · Posted: 08 Dec 2008, 23:54 Post subject:

When i play gta4 i normaly get around 20-30 fps at daytime, and under 20 fps at night (ingame).
The fps ingame doesnt get that much better when i lower my settings, nor does my benchmark-results either.

Some benchmarks from gta:

benchmark 1:

Statistics
Average FPS: 39.30
Duration: 37.17 sec
CPU Usage: 78%
System memory usage: 65%
Video memory usage: 91%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (59 Hz)
Texture Quality: High
Render Quality: High
View Distance: 30
Detail Distance: 50

Hardware
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Service Pack 3
Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260
Video Driver version: 180.48
Audio Adapter: SB X-Fi Audio [9F00]
Intel Pentium III Xeon-prosessor

benchmark 2:

Statistics
Average FPS: 38.91
Duration: 37.11 sec
CPU Usage: 78%
System memory usage: 57%
Video memory usage: 60%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1680 x 1050 (59 Hz)
Texture Quality: Medium
Render Quality: Highest
View Distance: 30
Detail Distance: 30

benchmark 3:

Statistics
Average FPS: 45.68
Duration: 37.10 sec
CPU Usage: 86%
System memory usage: 55%
Video memory usage: 47%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 800 x 600 (60 Hz)
Texture Quality: Medium
Render Quality: Medium
View Distance: 30
Detail Distance: 30

I have no clue why gta thinks i have a pentium III prosessor.
I really have a Intel Core Duo E8500 3.15GHz.

Sputs|uk · Posted: 09 Dec 2008, 00:53 Post subject:

Hmm not much difference in FPS with what changes were made.

Just for the record, shadows and car density have quite a large impact on the CPU, so i read somewhere. Figures really.

Acid, my system specs are in my GTA4 benchmark up top ^

8600GT has 256MB

Ruuub · Posted: 09 Dec 2008, 02:01 Post subject:

Bagpuss · Posted: 09 Dec 2008, 10:36 Post subject: You all suck

I dunno what your problem is. After a bit of tweaking I've got it to work fine on my computer.

Sputs|uk · Posted: 09 Dec 2008, 11:34 Post subject:

Lol, i had one of those white joysticks, 8 way click action.

Drivers optimized for GTA IV -

Acid_Rain · Posted: 09 Dec 2008, 12:16 Post subject:

Cheers sputs, i have similar PC specs to you, so might have a crack at this game to see if it runs on my PC.

Matt88 · Posted: 09 Dec 2008, 14:47 Post subject:

I did a benchmark... WTF is going on, why's the CPU usage so high?!

Statistics
Average FPS: 19.47
Duration: 37.30 sec
CPU Usage: 97%
System memory usage: 68%
Video memory usage: 88%

Graphics Settings
Video Mode: 1152 x 864 (75 Hz)
Texture Quality: Medium
Render Quality: Medium
View Distance: 44
Detail Distance: 28

Hardware
MicrosoftÃ‚Â® Windows Vista" Home Basic
Service Pack 1
Video Adapter: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT
Video Driver version: 180.48
Audio Adapter: Speakers (High Definition Audio Device)
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+

I can't improve the FPS no matter what graphics settings I use, because for some reason it's completely murdering the CPU...

The benchmark video was pretty funny though, some guys in suits riding around on faggios shooting each other.

Sputs|uk · Posted: 09 Dec 2008, 17:42 Post subject:

1st patch in the next few days, and that was yesterday, so should expect something pretty soon. The FPS prob seems common enough, i'm sure it'll be one of Rockstar's top priorities.

Whiskey · Posted: 09 Dec 2008, 17:55 Post subject:

I doubt the fps problem will be easy to patch tbh. Sure, they will fix some errors and maybe there will be some optimization done, but it'd be surprised if a simple patch will magically gives us 10+ fps.

Dop3man(Uk · Posted: 09 Dec 2008, 18:43 Post subject:

Lol when yall get it workin give me a shout n i might coin out 4 it until then MTA ftw

Ivan_xXx · Posted: 09 Dec 2008, 21:05 Post subject:

some helpful tips from what i know about render engines

if your graphics card has 512mb and above memory then you can leave all the textures on highest. textures dont really affect the GPU / CPU load that much.

the main culprit in this game is the smart ass AI, you know people smoking, talking to you, constantly adjusting so all pedestrians are different blah blah blah. also i read somewhere that there is an option to reduce the traffic density, which hogs the CPU, reduce that.

also try reducing the render quality, in most games the medium and high quality look exactly the same they just go through different algorithms.

and finally shadows... they are a bitch basically.

more when i actually get the game and find out how the engine works. sorry bit geeky

Whiskey · Posted: 09 Dec 2008, 22:06 Post subject:

lol, its complety the other way around for me. I can turn up traffic density and rendering with literally zero effect on my fps.

[SiK]Demiveil · Posted: 09 Dec 2008, 23:06 Post subject:

Anyone feel like posting me a copy?

Then I'd be able to insert my oh so valuable input.

Seems to me that the consoles (or at least the 360) has nothing over most of your rigs, so I don't fully understand why it would run so much poorer on them.

Bagpuss · Posted: 10 Dec 2008, 09:06 Post subject:

Ivan_xXx · Posted: 10 Dec 2008, 13:23 Post subject:

Dop3man(Uk · Posted: 10 Dec 2008, 17:31 Post subject:

Ivan_xXx · Posted: 10 Dec 2008, 18:08 Post subject:

new ati drivers gave about a 2%-3% in performance, not what i was hoping for. it seems to me that rockstar have forgotten something, they hung way too much on the cpu, the code is a bit of a mess as well. for example i have a sound card with all the onboard gear, but the game throws everything at the cpu instead

i am not exadgurating when i'm saying that i can play far cry 2 at max settings better than this on low/medium

Hitman · Posted: 10 Dec 2008, 20:09 Post subject:

face it, you pc gamers get fucking PWNT when it comes to playing console ported games... i feel for oyu, i really do.. thank fuck i'm bored of GTAIV :lol:

Ivan_xXx · Posted: 10 Dec 2008, 20:41 Post subject:

no pain...... no gain mr hitman

ZerO · Posted: 12 Dec 2008, 13:19 Post subject:

This fkin sucks.

E8500 @ 4GHz / 4Gb / HD 4870 512MB

All games like Far Cry 2, Crysis Warhead, COD5, run perfectly on full resolutions and high settings.

But this. OMFG sometimes below 20fps on 1440*900 / low, low, viewdist 16, detaildist 20, cars 20, shadows 5.

Got to be good patch, i want to enjoy playing this, not to watch ugly shadows, no-AA lines, and other bullshit.

Sputs|uk · Posted: 12 Dec 2008, 13:30 Post subject:

Ruuub · Posted: 12 Dec 2008, 14:11 Post subject:

anTe · Posted: 12 Dec 2008, 21:02 Post subject:

Ok, now I have taken the decision to buy a new computer. I hope this shit is enough to play gta iv :p

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz S775 1333MHz 6MB "Wolfdale" Boxed

RAM: Corsair DHX 4096M Kit DDR2 XMS2-6400, 2x240 Dimm CL4 + Corsair DHX 4096M Kit DDR2 XMS2-6400, 2x240 Dimm CL4 = 8 gb tot.

Graphic card: Asus Geforce GTX260 896MB PCI-E 2xDVI HDTV TV-out HDCP Retail

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-EP43-DS3L S775 P43 ATX PCI-E Audio GbLAN SATA-II DDR2 Retail

Ivan_xXx · Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 11:13 Post subject:

the new patch is out but how do i get it if i dont have an internet connection?

as in any way to get it without the windows live?

Yoda · Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 11:41 Post subject:

Cool, I get 30fps now compared to my 19-22

Sputs|uk · Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 13:18 Post subject:

- further down the page there's a direct link to download the patch and install it manually.

BTW loving the wintery chrimbo vibe about the place, nice touch :wink:

Obelix · Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 14:21 Post subject:

ye, except there is no snow in europe now, right? lol

Yoda · Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 14:53 Post subject:

Ahh, wonderful, snow! No. We got rain, aint that right Sputs.

Synergi · Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 15:27 Post subject:

its snow here, and -10C

Bagpuss · Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 18:03 Post subject:

Sputs|uk · Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 18:45 Post subject:

The new comp i've been looking at comes with a Q6600, how much RAM do you have installed Dave?

Bagpuss · Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 21:21 Post subject:

Synergi · Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 21:23 Post subject:

I clearly remember that there was a tree in the wintertheme a year ago

edit:

anTe · Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 22:03 Post subject:

[SiK]Demiveil · Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 22:07 Post subject:

Wow...you managed to push your Q6600 to 3.2?

I should perhaps give that a shot as that extra 800mhz could come in rather handy...

Quite a popular cpu the Q6600 seems to be actually.

Obelix · Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 22:33 Post subject:

a tree would be good, but fixing would be even better

Bagpuss · Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 23:17 Post subject:

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