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xerion
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Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 18:55 Post subject: CAMPING |
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Well the title says about that I want to talk.
Camping should be punished more than now in my opinion. You didn't like when i banned blender, but here i go with him again.
It really isn't fun to play with campers, trust me - that's same for DD and DM
Especially in MW event I noticed there are a lot of campers, who ruin good players' game. Everytime I join DD or DM, I just have one target - CAR on DD and HUNTER on DM obviously. But DD campers only fight when they are forced to. (Example is blender)
Maybe you don't understand why I care about the "fail" servers, but I still think there should be same rules for every player, until DD and DM server has the SKC in the name.
Thanks for any reply, I appreciate it.
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Csena[HUN]
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Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 19:06 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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-500 points
Drive on the pavement. Accidents always happen on the road. [SKC]Sputs|uk "Me and this map are officially over now. We were happily married in the begining, but now it's war and i want a devorce!"
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Seif
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Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 19:29 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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I agree. When there is no MW, the death list fills up rather quickly. But when MW is on, it often takes all of the map's time to finish the round. It's ridiculous. People don't hit others in MW unless they're forced to.
I think there should probably be an admin online in MWs in each server to help preventing this problem.
Jigsaw: KAMIKAZE ISNT ALLOWED! its destruction derby NOT KAMIKAZE DERBY Jigsaw: seif's quote about me.. what a lie.. never said kamikaze was not allowd.. but W/e :d
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Ivan_xXx
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Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 19:40 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Csena[HUN]
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Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 22:27 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Drive on the pavement. Accidents always happen on the road. [SKC]Sputs|uk "Me and this map are officially over now. We were happily married in the begining, but now it's war and i want a devorce!"
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xerion
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Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 22:36 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Please, would it be possible to add removing points function?
With everything going to logs of course...
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Yoda
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Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 22:42 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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I like Csena's ideas...
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Ivan_xXx
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Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 22:47 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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why dont you integrate the -500 points into the slap cmd?
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Seif
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Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 23:55 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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No, don't take out points. Some admins can be unreasonable. If you can have an admin supervise, then just kick the dumb player out the server.
Also, blender never talks lol
Jigsaw: KAMIKAZE ISNT ALLOWED! its destruction derby NOT KAMIKAZE DERBY Jigsaw: seif's quote about me.. what a lie.. never said kamikaze was not allowd.. but W/e :d
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Servo
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011, 09:31 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Ivan_xXx
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011, 10:41 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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MCvarial
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011, 10:58 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Atleast.
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Whiskey
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011, 13:33 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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DM: Easy solution, you need to get a vehicle pickup (hunter, baron or sparrow) to qualify for getting points. This should be scriptable i suppose?
DD: Script something like this: If HealthLost < 5% within Last 60 seconds Then KillPlayerWithoutPoints. This would force you to fight. Not sure how feasible it is to script that + it would probably need some finetuning. The basic idea seems good though, no?
"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music."
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Servo
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011, 13:48 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Last edited by Servo on 06 Mar 2011, 14:13, edited 2 times in total.
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Kackwurst
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011, 13:58 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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whats about when players are killed for not moving they dont get any points ?!
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Whiskey
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011, 13:58 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music."
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Servo
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011, 14:16 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Val(ium)
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011, 19:11 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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@Kackwurst
Because some don't care about points, so that would fail.
Campers are whores.
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Sgt. Hamilton
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011, 23:36 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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What if the "Camper" camps as usual and hits a object or goes up/down a ramp to lose HP on purpose to avoid the timer finishing and avoiding fighting with others.
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Chatter666
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Posted: 06 Mar 2011, 23:53 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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they do get points
and i hate campers as well
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Seif
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Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 00:37 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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How about a special group that can start a vote against a camper and players would vote whether a player is a camper or not. If people say he camps, the camper would lose 10-20 points? And maybe also killing him in the round
Jigsaw: KAMIKAZE ISNT ALLOWED! its destruction derby NOT KAMIKAZE DERBY Jigsaw: seif's quote about me.. what a lie.. never said kamikaze was not allowd.. but W/e :d
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Aivaras
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Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 08:28 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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bubu you should leave the forum,because everyone hates you now
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Whiskey
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Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 11:12 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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"Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music."
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MCvarial
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Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 11:57 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Well it might be possible;
When a player loses health we'd have to check wether there's a bounding box of another vehicle in the bounding box of his vehicle. Yay maths
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Servo
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Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 12:12 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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but whats when u have a hunter or something?^^ u cant ram them ^^
EDIT: just give aircrafts then an infiniti box
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Ivan_xXx
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MCvarial
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Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 12:47 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Seif
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Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 12:59 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Jigsaw: KAMIKAZE ISNT ALLOWED! its destruction derby NOT KAMIKAZE DERBY Jigsaw: seif's quote about me.. what a lie.. never said kamikaze was not allowd.. but W/e :d
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Csena[HUN]
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Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 18:47 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Drive on the pavement. Accidents always happen on the road. [SKC]Sputs|uk "Me and this map are officially over now. We were happily married in the begining, but now it's war and i want a devorce!"
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Aivaras
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Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 10:24 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Dop3man(Uk
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Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 11:41 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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All this shit for campers?does the SKC fail servres not have enough competant admins anymore?
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MCvarial
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Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 11:43 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Servo
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Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 11:46 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Dop3man(Uk
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Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 11:49 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Ryan
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Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 12:54 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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....atlleast one good forum post....
Blessed by a shadowy hand coming out of the fucking wall during sleep paralysis.
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Bubu
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Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 15:50 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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“All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.” -J.R.R Tolkien
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Sgt. Hamilton
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Posted: 08 Mar 2011, 19:19 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Meanwhile this is still in discussion or being scripted, some admins should join DD during MW because it has gotten out of control. Map timers eventually reach 0 because everyone drives around avoiding each other and start fighting when there is only 10 seconds left...
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Seif
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Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 22:08 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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I hope the idea is being developed. Some people camp and have the mentality of camping as a "basic gaming strategy" or reply to you saying "it's part of dd" and such when you talk to them. They run around, do 1 hit then run away. Or they block from the top of a certain place and camp there while considering it "part of DD". I'm sure Atom can back me up on this
Jigsaw: KAMIKAZE ISNT ALLOWED! its destruction derby NOT KAMIKAZE DERBY Jigsaw: seif's quote about me.. what a lie.. never said kamikaze was not allowd.. but W/e :d
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xerion
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Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 06:26 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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No he can't, because he's friendly with campers. (especially blender lol)
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Seif
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Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 11:22 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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I know lol I don't mind blender that much because he's a good player. But people like atom, a hit and run and those type of stuff... :/
Jigsaw: KAMIKAZE ISNT ALLOWED! its destruction derby NOT KAMIKAZE DERBY Jigsaw: seif's quote about me.. what a lie.. never said kamikaze was not allowd.. but W/e :d
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Exit
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Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 13:29 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Seif stop talking about me and telling me a camper. Only one time i blocked people from doing the dm part. I just play my own tactic and it's a mix between run and intelligence ramming. You should see Ghost, he is ramming and then just pushing me like stupid. And Seif, I just want dodge this moments, when many players are on one position, because then a player with speed comes and will ram me out -> death.
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Seif
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Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 20:35 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Jigsaw: KAMIKAZE ISNT ALLOWED! its destruction derby NOT KAMIKAZE DERBY Jigsaw: seif's quote about me.. what a lie.. never said kamikaze was not allowd.. but W/e :d
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Exit
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Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 21:40 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Maybe i am not stupid like others and push the player all time time? This could you call "Hardcore"-DD-playing. But I try to trick the player and then ram him out, before he can ram me / or the noobish way: push me out.
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AdiBoy
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Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 21:44 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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omg, there isnt this much moaning on the race server during mw.. this must really piss ppl off badly..
what about a proximity checker? if you dont get 10 ft close to somebody in 1 minute, bang, you lose 25% of your total hp... this can only happen 4 times at most, considering you dont lose hp while driving or from other sources.. this isnt hard to script and it seems a good idea.. and we can add a rule too: whoever tries to avoid this check will be banned; it isnt hard to spot...
afterall its our server, we make the rules; after banning half the server during the first mw im sure they will get it and stop camping
this is for dd at least; about the dm server the only idea that comes into my head is: if they dont have a server where to camp they wont camp..
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Seif
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Posted: 14 Mar 2011, 22:07 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Jigsaw: KAMIKAZE ISNT ALLOWED! its destruction derby NOT KAMIKAZE DERBY Jigsaw: seif's quote about me.. what a lie.. never said kamikaze was not allowd.. but W/e :d
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Exit
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Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 10:06 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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The whole server isn't you, Ghost and 2-3 newbies. There is even no rule, how you should play Destruction Derby, if you want you can try ram everybody, your problem then is that you always get suddenly rammed out of this shit-tactic - my experience.
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Tulaipo
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Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 11:15 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Atom's luck is that Seif is now admin Good Luck staying alive lol
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Seif
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Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 11:23 Post subject: Re: CAMPING |
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Jigsaw: KAMIKAZE ISNT ALLOWED! its destruction derby NOT KAMIKAZE DERBY Jigsaw: seif's quote about me.. what a lie.. never said kamikaze was not allowd.. but W/e :d
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